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chocolatepotOkay, I think my presentation is finished! Now I just need to practice is a bazillion times.
The organization is thus: intro (esp. on the idea of "historical narrative"/"narrative history"); designers (Worth and Chéruit (who is little known BUT SHOULD BE MORE SO), Poiret and Lucile, and Callot Soeurs and Lanvin); "1920s pre-1920s", about the ways the 1910s changed fashion to set up for the 1920s; the 1920s themselves; myths: CHANEL, how her "innovations" can be seen in other designers before her, etc. - the corset - music (ragtime and the tango, why jazz was not the first new sexy music) - the bob - the cloche, but I'm considering taking that one out because it's not very exciting - the flapper; conclusion (???)
The more I've gone into designers, though, the more furious (but in like a sedate way) I am at how Chanel is remembered as basically the first, most important female fashion designer. Do you know how many women there were who started their own fashion houses before her? LIKE ALL OF THEM. And do you know how many did it by starting out as apprentices and then branching out on their own? LIKE ALL OF THEM EXCEPT CHANEL. It is madness.
And another thing. This narrative about people ~not being able to keep up with Chanel's simplicity~, there are SO. MANY. really simple dresses from the 1910s, and from the 1920s by the designers that "couldn't" be simple. Early 1920s dresses were just really fancy! That was popular! Most of what you see labeled "1920s Chanel" is from the second half - you can tell by the suity look and the short skirts. *stomps feet*
I know, I know, save the passion for the day.
The organization is thus: intro (esp. on the idea of "historical narrative"/"narrative history"); designers (Worth and Chéruit (who is little known BUT SHOULD BE MORE SO), Poiret and Lucile, and Callot Soeurs and Lanvin); "1920s pre-1920s", about the ways the 1910s changed fashion to set up for the 1920s; the 1920s themselves; myths: CHANEL, how her "innovations" can be seen in other designers before her, etc. - the corset - music (ragtime and the tango, why jazz was not the first new sexy music) - the bob - the cloche, but I'm considering taking that one out because it's not very exciting - the flapper; conclusion (???)
The more I've gone into designers, though, the more furious (but in like a sedate way) I am at how Chanel is remembered as basically the first, most important female fashion designer. Do you know how many women there were who started their own fashion houses before her? LIKE ALL OF THEM. And do you know how many did it by starting out as apprentices and then branching out on their own? LIKE ALL OF THEM EXCEPT CHANEL. It is madness.
And another thing. This narrative about people ~not being able to keep up with Chanel's simplicity~, there are SO. MANY. really simple dresses from the 1910s, and from the 1920s by the designers that "couldn't" be simple. Early 1920s dresses were just really fancy! That was popular! Most of what you see labeled "1920s Chanel" is from the second half - you can tell by the suity look and the short skirts. *stomps feet*
I know, I know, save the passion for the day.
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Date: 2013-06-05 06:58 pm (UTC)Oh wait, presentation, not the article you were talking about. Well, it sounds good to me. Wasn't ragtime related to jazz in some way? For sexy music though, yeah, that goes way way back.
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Date: 2013-06-05 11:34 pm (UTC)Jazz and ragtime are 100% related, and 1920s jazz mainly sounds like ragtime played on different instruments, IMO.