TV is driving me crazy
May. 18th, 2015 06:38 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
chocolatepot I am so of two minds when it comes to GoT. On the one hand, do I even have to say what the problems are at this point? On the other, I think they're at least trying (trying) to reconcile issues with the books. Dany's wedding night in the books was gentle, but that detracts from the fact that she was what, 12? and I always thought it was very weird that he chose to write that so gentle and consensual but then immediately after that abusive and awful. With Sansa, bringing her to Ramsay is needed character consolidation and gives her a better plotline.
I guess part of my problem is that I don't see - in fiction - rape attempts or uncomfortable sexualized situations as that far removed from rape in Doylist terms. Sansa being attacked in the streets, the stuff with Sandor, Tyrion undressing her, Joffrey, Marillion, Petyr ... she's undergone a significant amount of sexualized nastiness in the books, quite a bit of it removed for the show. I would have done this addition differently (my prediction was that Ramsay would try to restrain himself around her, treat her as a Lady - Jeyne came to him more as a prisoner - but would eventually give in some time after their marriage), but it's significantly less awful than what happened to Jeyne.
And I guess the real, underlying issue is that it seems like the meta people on Tumblr are willing to treat the books as "reality", without a writer (unless they want to praise GRRM's subtlety), while the show is always something that the producers have made deliberate decisions about. Do Benioff and Weiss make decisions for gratuitousness onscreen? Hell yes. But GRRM is frequently gratuitous and it's ridiculous to pretend otherwise just because it's in print. B & W may have added naked prostitutes everywhere, but the way GRRM wrote the series set them up to do it.
OH MY GOD MAD MEN
I love that Don invents "I'd Like to Give the World a Coke" (red hair ribbons cinched it for me), I love that Stan and Peggy got together even though Peggy's realization sounded more like a rationalization wtf (whatevs, STEGGY TIME), I love that Roger ended up with a woman who's perfect for him, that Joan has a production company, that there was no more Glen, that Trudy's outfit was KILLER ...
I didn't love what's happened to Betty and Sally. I mean, duh, does anyone love that? But it didn't feel at peace like everyone else - even just having Betty smoking and washing dishes with Sally would have been a huge improvement. Let her have that moment of reconciliation and togetherness, for goodness's sake. Everybody else got to have a positive ending, why not them?
JS&MN is amazing. I have a really strong connection to that book, more than almost anything I've ever read - probably because I'm a Mr. Segundus at heart - and it's wonderful to see it rendered faithfully onscreen. :')
I guess part of my problem is that I don't see - in fiction - rape attempts or uncomfortable sexualized situations as that far removed from rape in Doylist terms. Sansa being attacked in the streets, the stuff with Sandor, Tyrion undressing her, Joffrey, Marillion, Petyr ... she's undergone a significant amount of sexualized nastiness in the books, quite a bit of it removed for the show. I would have done this addition differently (my prediction was that Ramsay would try to restrain himself around her, treat her as a Lady - Jeyne came to him more as a prisoner - but would eventually give in some time after their marriage), but it's significantly less awful than what happened to Jeyne.
And I guess the real, underlying issue is that it seems like the meta people on Tumblr are willing to treat the books as "reality", without a writer (unless they want to praise GRRM's subtlety), while the show is always something that the producers have made deliberate decisions about. Do Benioff and Weiss make decisions for gratuitousness onscreen? Hell yes. But GRRM is frequently gratuitous and it's ridiculous to pretend otherwise just because it's in print. B & W may have added naked prostitutes everywhere, but the way GRRM wrote the series set them up to do it.
OH MY GOD MAD MEN
I love that Don invents "I'd Like to Give the World a Coke" (red hair ribbons cinched it for me), I love that Stan and Peggy got together even though Peggy's realization sounded more like a rationalization wtf (whatevs, STEGGY TIME), I love that Roger ended up with a woman who's perfect for him, that Joan has a production company, that there was no more Glen, that Trudy's outfit was KILLER ...
I didn't love what's happened to Betty and Sally. I mean, duh, does anyone love that? But it didn't feel at peace like everyone else - even just having Betty smoking and washing dishes with Sally would have been a huge improvement. Let her have that moment of reconciliation and togetherness, for goodness's sake. Everybody else got to have a positive ending, why not them?
JS&MN is amazing. I have a really strong connection to that book, more than almost anything I've ever read - probably because I'm a Mr. Segundus at heart - and it's wonderful to see it rendered faithfully onscreen. :')
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