Just wondering

[chocolatepot]

On a scale of one to ten, how pissed off would you be if a guy referred to a woman/female character with three kids as a baby machine, then defended it by saying "Whether a sausage machine turns out three sausages or a million ... it's still a sausage machine. Particularly if it does nothing else but make sausages"?

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[baranduyn]

Jackass alert. Seriously, that's a jackass statement. A quick caveat; in some cultures the uterus is referred to as 'the factory', but I think that's only acceptible when a woman is referring to her own uterus. In parts of South America when a woman has had a tubal ligation to prevent more babies she will sometimes say 'the factory is closed'. Still, as he produces nothing but crap statements one might wonder if his only output is biohazardous material i.e. "Well, dude, you might be nothing but a shit factory. Keep talking and I'll decide."

[chocolatepot]

Yeah, it's Madderbrad. I'd responded to his original statement to go "dude, not cool" and he keeps justifying it and implying that I'm SJWing him with sexism so I don't have to refute his ~clearly logical~ statements about why Ginny is poorly written.

[baranduyn]

She isn't badly written. She simply didn't get as much on-page time as other characters.

She's consistent, if you put her in context. She's younger than Harry and Ron and Hermoine. Her crush behavior is perfect for a kid of that age. Then for awhile she's 'off-page'.

If he wants a detailed characterization he's out of luck. If he needs to know what she eats for breakfast, how many times she chews her food before she swallows and how many times she has a BM to understand her he needs to develop the ability for context and content.
I wonder if all of his friends are imaginary.

[chocolatepot]

His other friends are probably Tea Partiers because, IIRC, he's one of those creepily conservative Harmonians.

[baranduyn]

Why bother reading it then? One of the central premises is freedom and another is a kind of equality. Wouldn't he be happier catching up on volume three-hundred and twelve of the "Left Behind" series, subtitled "We're Out of Toilet Paper"?

[chocolatepot]

Because I'm stupid and when someone replies to me with something that completely misrepresents what I've just said (me: "this machine thing is dang sexist and gross; the assumption that Ginny is a housewife is sexist but I can understand it because of patriarchal norms and it doesn't really upset me." him: "you're saying that when I say Ginny being a housewife is the most logical interpretation, that's a truly vile sexism!") there's this optimistic little voice in my head that goes, "he's obviously mistaken, if you're logical enough he'll understand where he went wrong and stop mixing it up."

But I think I am going to have to call it quits, because his last post accused me of just calling sexism to silence him/ignore the fact that it's Rowling who is sexist, and if he still willfully misinterprets what I say in my response, well, that optimistic little voice is just going to sit back and go, "well."

[baranduyn]

I meant 'why would he bother to read HP if he's conservative.' HP sets a lot of conservative types twitching. :D

There are people who are so dazzled by their own logic...him, case in point...that they can't see there's no logic there at all. Maybe he's got a lot in common with a whole lot of politicians.

[chocolatepot]

He probably started it when it was "oh, just a kid's book, but it's fun," and then he kept reading for Hermioneeeeeee, because he's defensive of her enough to protest when someone explains why she's not perfect enough to be called a Mary Sue.

[lliira]

What I don't get is why these reactionary types like Hermione in the first place. She's a strong, independent girl who doesn't take crap, her most important asset is her mind and she knows it, and she's also not ashamed or afraid of her sexuality.

[chocolatepot]

Also, haha. I read you as saying, "Why bother reading his points, HP is obviously socially conscious, so he's pointless."

[lliira]

About 15.

But... Madderbrad? I can't get angry at anything he says, because it's too much energy. I know everything he says is going to be misogynistic and about 20 other kinds of awful at the same time. Because of course it is. The man's got the brains (and probably other things) of a particularly small pea.